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Post by WayFastWhitey on Jul 13, 2005 18:21:03 GMT -5
Ben, whatever makes you sleep at night. But when you realize we're right you'll start keeping the night light on.
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 13, 2005 19:05:50 GMT -5
This is why there are more mr2's out there? oh wait there isnt. Don't give that rarity crap either, it doesn't fly. The sheer number of dsm's to mr2's speaks for itself, this is starting to become like a political dsicussion, were not getting anywhere and someone will end up pissed off. Let the thread rip.
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Post by Töuge-MR on Jul 13, 2005 19:40:25 GMT -5
Ha, not after a comment like that! The "rarity crap" is real, believe it or not. Next time you find a 2nd gen turbo for sale, you let me know. And if you even SEE the turbo, its probably modified. There are few that arent. DSMs on the otherhand are like the slut of the car world. Cheap, quick thrill, but arent that stable and dont last long.
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Post by WayFastWhitey on Jul 13, 2005 20:26:02 GMT -5
This is fun we should all pick sides and get in a big brawl at broad street on friday night. overall performance(MR2>DSM) overall abundance(MR2<DSM).
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Post by augur11 on Jul 14, 2005 2:01:37 GMT -5
MR2s are god. After driving my friends Talon TSI AWD I really wasn't that impressed. I mean hell, I would love to have one and the aftermarket for the cars are insane.
Overall you can't even compare these cars, they don't have the same classing. MR2s are a mid engine rear wheel drive 2-seater. DSMs are front engine front or AWD. MR2s are built to be one of the best handling cars around, where DSMs are more about the straight line.
I hate when people get into arguments over which car is the best when they are so different. If we were talking about Mustangs and Camaros it would be different.
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Post by augur11 on Jul 14, 2005 2:02:21 GMT -5
If this brawl does go down though, I'm with the MR2 guys!
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 14, 2005 18:15:53 GMT -5
A car that doesn't sell well doesn't make it rare, get your bloated heads out or your arses. It's an MR2, not a Ferrari. If the car were that great then it would still be in production. Though the Eclipse was never the best at least it sells. Thinking about it, what's the best performing car that Toyota has right now? The Corolla S? Toyota's sports cars have never been good sellers, though the Supra wasn't fully appreciated until it was out of production.
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Post by augur11 on Jul 15, 2005 1:38:56 GMT -5
They MR2 didn't sell well because of a little thing called practicality. The car doesn't make sense to own unless your looking for a nice Sunday car. There's no room in it whatsoever and it did sell surprisingly well considering. The Eclipse sold because it does make sense as a sporty daily driver. As for the Toyota performance car, or lack thereof, I completely agree. Toyota needs to do some homework and start appealing to people looking for sports cars by other means than the Scion TC. I don't understand where all this argument came from anyways, I stated earlier that we shouldn't be arguing about two cars that aren't even comparable in the first place.
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 15, 2005 16:15:27 GMT -5
It's because Chris(TougeMR) and I have had this dsm vs. mr2 since he got his mr2.
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Post by augur11 on Jul 16, 2005 2:37:55 GMT -5
In a way its fun I suppose. Comon though, you guys have to respect each others car. I love DSMs and MR2s, why can't you guys learn to love?
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Post by Töuge-MR on Jul 18, 2005 20:38:24 GMT -5
Ben, the "rarity" thing about MR2's isnt some giant myth. Next time you see a turbo for sale or even one period (other than at autocross, i wonder if that means something? ) you let me know. They produced the 2nd gen MR2 for 2 1/2 years. They produced the DSM for 7 years or more... Do the math. Cmon man think lol. That, and the previously stated practicality issue. In my personal oppinion, comparing a DSM to a 2nd gen MR2 turbo isnt even a comparison, unless youre talking about straight line travel. In which case, you may as well be comparing an MR2 turbo to a camaro.
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Post by WayFastWhitey on Jul 19, 2005 17:47:35 GMT -5
Ben- "Don't give that rarity crap either, it doesn't fly." Right # of MR2's. 1991 - 11,211 1992 - 6,188 1993 - 2,917 1994 - 908 1995 - 356 =21,580
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 19, 2005 18:23:16 GMT -5
^^^That just proves my point, as soon as everyone realized the cars weren't that great, nobody bought them. Corvettes aren't practical and still sell. As for the "cheap, quick, thrill", tell that to John Shepherd, who is now running 8.55@176mph. I'd like to see an mr2 do that. Most any turbo car will cheaply make power, unfortunately dsmers generally are cheap people and go for fast as cheap as possible. If you want to talk about an mr2 that handles you need a 1st gen.
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Post by mister2mkii on Jul 20, 2005 10:43:13 GMT -5
Here's what I think.... I love my '91 MR2T. It's refined, and when you wanna go, it goes. I also love to hop in my brother modded '97 eclipse whenever I really wanna burn some rubber. It's a rough ride and loud, but man does it scream. So, I love both cars for different reasons. But with a little time and money, I will hopefully have the MR2 just as fast as the DSM, but still have amazing handling (not quite as good as a 1st gen..but still damn good) and a quiet little car. I prefer the MR2 only because of it's prestige (yes, rarity) and it's RELIABLE power potential. No matter how many they made, I still get comment ALL THE TIME from people about how they've never seen one, and think that they are the coolest looking cars. As for an eclipse...the market is so flooded nobody pays attention to it anymore. I really like you're car ben...but you know that as soon as I'm done with school...I'm gonna be moddin my 2 and then i'll be comin after ya!!
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Post by Töuge-MR on Jul 20, 2005 12:26:15 GMT -5
^^^That just proves my point, as soon as everyone realized the cars weren't that great, nobody bought them. Corvettes aren't practical and still sell. As for the "cheap, quick, thrill", tell that to John Shepherd, who is now running 8.55@176mph. I'd like to see an mr2 do that. Most any turbo car will cheaply make power, unfortunately dsmers generally are cheap people and go for fast as cheap as possible. If you want to talk about an mr2 that handles you need a 1st gen. LOL ben youre retarded. Thats not the number of MR2's that were SOLD, thats the number that were MADE... Cmon man wake up. 1st gens handle, but dont have the power to back them up. 2nd gens handle, just not QUITE as good as the 1g's because of the slightly longer wheelbase. Go to www.mr2oc.com, there are several MR2's running in the 9's and a few in the 8's i believe. As for 1g DSMs being able to handle..
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