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Post by Accord Euro-R on Jul 8, 2005 0:48:22 GMT -5
Found this on www.v6performance.net (which i would recomend for anyone with a V6 car)....but this is the engine in my new accord with a custom turbo kit. the moderator of this board says its obviously photoshopped but my eyes are not keen enough to tell. if it is fake then thats messed up, but if not id like to know where this guy got it done and how much he paid for it....newayz, lemme know what u think! link to the thread itself: www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4601&highlight=block   |
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Post by Töuge-MR on Jul 8, 2005 2:25:01 GMT -5
Okay the moderator of that message board is a fucking retard. That is obviously not photoshopped. All you gotta do is bring it into any program and start doing blur effects on it, any mismatched pixels will stand out like a sore thumb.
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 8, 2005 20:47:43 GMT -5
That, and you can tell by just looking at the lighting, and shadows. It's not photoshopped, and if it were it's the best you'll ever see.
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Post by vroompsh on Jul 10, 2005 15:21:25 GMT -5
I dont think it's photoshopped.....if so he needs to teach me how to photo shop stuff better!
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Post by raybaer on Jul 11, 2005 9:52:09 GMT -5
the first pic looks like it could've arouse suspicion, but the next two deffinately not photoshoped. I think it was just the low quality of the first one.
That's a pretty nasty looking setup. I can only imaging what 3.0 liters of vtech power can do with the 2 or 3 psi of boost you can put through it.
My thoughts... unless your planning on building the bottom end for boost, (lower compression pistons and stronger rods) which would obliterate your vtech, DON"T TURBO A VTECH!!!!!
Unless of course you enjoy spending a lot of money for minimal HP gains and lots of headaches down the road.
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Post by Accord Euro-R on Jul 11, 2005 13:55:07 GMT -5
ya.....this guy is running about 270hp at the wheels at 5psi, but said he has tuned the car safely up to 10psi on stock internals and had no problems with the engine itself, just the clutch. but at 10psi hes making about 330whp, with enough torque to go around. since its a newer car most of the internal parts needed to run higher PSI's arent being made right now so its hard to find cams, injectors, pistons, rods, etc. but its a completely customs setup that his guy did for about 5000.....
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 11, 2005 18:47:13 GMT -5
A v-6 is a bigger, beefier motor that will take boost better than a 4cyl Honda would.
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Post by Töuge-MR on Jul 11, 2005 20:22:10 GMT -5
The pressure is more equally distributed. 10psi among 6 cylenders dont quite equal the stress of 10psi on 4 cylenders.
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Post by 2001dodgeneonrt on Jul 12, 2005 14:28:48 GMT -5
Not so much the addition of boost is what kills turbo motors, its the lack of tuning done by the ricers... LOL When u add boost u have to compensate and add fuel also. Alot of people attempt to do that but fail and in the process blow their engine cause they run lean. And just because its a v6 dosnent mean its beefier. Cast rod is a cast rod bottom line.If you want to boost any engine research and find out what the common number is that the stock bottom end will hold. I know neons will typically will hold around 235whp. past that u are treading on thin water. Research before u build  |
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 12, 2005 18:47:04 GMT -5
A v6 is a beefier motor, at least compared to a 4 cylinder. Larger engine with more rotating mass requires stronger and/or heavier parts. Thats what makes it so easy to put spray on a v8 and run it all day. The motors are bigger, and built heavier and can handle larger loads.
But your right about fuel, thats the #1 mistake when it comes to adding boost to a n/a car which leads to detonation.
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Post by Accord Euro-R on Jul 19, 2005 1:00:33 GMT -5
right.....i know i would need to add fuel to compensate, which would obviously be done with higher octane gas and bigger injectors, and a lil fine tuning on the ECU. however what size injectors would u recommend for an engine that large? and with a compression ratio of 10.0:1, would it be basically the same as a 4 cyl with the same ratio, or would the fact its a V6 make a difference?
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 19, 2005 18:31:04 GMT -5
Depends, your stock fuel system may(but not likely) be able to support those mods. Injectors are usually offered in stages for each application, like mine for instance: stock is 450cc, step1 is 550cc then 660cc. Just depends on what you have now and what the next size up injector is available for your car. An air/fuel gauge will be a must, it will tell you if your too lean or rich and give you an idea of what you need to do.
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Post by Accord Euro-R on Jul 22, 2005 1:17:37 GMT -5
so back to compression ratios and my attempt to understand them.....at what ratio does putting FI on a car become a stupid idea? Ive heard different things from different sources.....
- Honda-Tech: Anything over 9.5:1
- V6performance.net: Anything over 8.5-9:1
- ASR ricers: 11.5:1 (one of them has a new turbo'd Celica GT-S which compression ratio is 11:1)
so please inform me......
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Post by 4g63ownedu on Jul 22, 2005 17:19:03 GMT -5
Every car is a little different. It's likely though you would only be able to run a few psi on a car like yours due to your compression ratio being a little higher. That's what makes Type-R's bad for turboing, very high compression. The c/r on my car stock is 8.0-1, which allows for boost. I know the built dsms are running around 9.0-1 compression and running 20-30psi.
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